‘Sugar’s Kirby Explains That Ruby Is to John Sugar What M Is to James Bond


[Editor’s note: The following contains spoilers for Sugar.]


The Huge Image

  • The Apple TV+ collection ‘Sugar’ is a singular personal detective story with a mysterious case involving Hollywood secrets and techniques.
  • Ruby is pivotal to John Sugar’s investigations, offering tech-savvy expertise and a posh dynamic.
  • Kirby needs to delve deeper into Ruby’s character in a attainable Season 2, exploring relationships and social points.


On its floor, the eight-episode Apple TV+ collection Sugar is a personal detective story wrapped in movie noir with an charisma surrounding it. John Sugar (Colin Farrell) takes a case for legendary Hollywood producer Jonathan Siegel (James Cromwell) to seek out his lacking granddaughter, however as he makes an attempt to uncover what occurred, it additionally brings beforehand buried secrets and techniques to mild. And as you comply with the investigation, it turns into obvious that there are issues occurring with Sugar which have a deeper clarification and which might be slowly beginning to reveal themselves.

Ruby (Kirby) is John Sugar’s right-hand lady, a buddy and colleague who brings the brains and the tech-savvy as Sugar works the case. The 2 go method again and have a dynamic that’s half sibling and half parental determine, however that additionally makes it clear that Ruby is a part of the charisma that swirls across the P.I.


Throughout this one-on-one interview with Collider, Kirby (previously Kirby Howell-Baptiste) talked about all of the questions she had in regards to the position and the present, studying about her character as she received every script, the continuously shifting character dynamics, the Ruby and Sugar relationship, how Ruby prides herself on following the foundations, and that she want to simply proceed digging deeper into every part in a attainable Season 2.

Sugar (2024)

Non-public investigator John Sugar examines the mysterious disappearance of Olivia Siegel, the granddaughter of a legendary Hollywood producer.
 

Launch Date
April 5, 2024

Seasons
1

Creator(s)
Mark Protosevich


Kirby Had As Many Questions About ‘Sugar’ As Viewers Do

Kirby as Ruby sitting on the couch smiling with a blue hair wrap pulling her hair back in Season 1 of Sugar
Picture through Apple TV+

Collider: All the pieces about this present was completely surprising. I had no concept what anyone was going to do or the place it was going, which was actually cool. How was it introduced to you? How was this character described? Did you’ve an actual sense of who she was from the start, or did you’ve a whole lot of questions?


KIRBY: I completely had a whole lot of questions in regards to the position and in regards to the present. After I got here on board, I had so little data. I hadn’t learn the pilot but, however I knew from a dialog with Sherry Thomas, our casting director, the position of Ruby in her simplest kind. I knew that Ruby is to Sugar what M is to James Bond. I knew that they’d have this relationship the place she was generally associate, generally buddy, generally I’d say handler. After which, from there, in seeing the scripts unfold, after which additionally from working with Colin [Farrell], it allowed the connection to develop and develop, and for that character to evolve from what we see within the first episode to what we see on the finish.

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Generally it seems like a sibling relationship, however generally it feels extra like she’s in a father or mother place.

KIRBY: Yeah, I believe that’s what makes the present so fascinating. It’s a present that’s based mostly in relationships and based mostly in connection, and also you’re seeing each single relationship within the present, whether or not that be between Sugar and other people, or inside households. It’s a present that has continuously shifting dynamics inside all of the relationships.

What was it like to essentially discover these moments the place you recognize the viewers doesn’t actually have any historical past or backstory about who Ruby is they usually don’t know a lot about what’s going on? What are the largest challenges that include enjoying somebody that we all know so little about? Had been you making an attempt to overlook all of the issues that you simply might need recognized about her, at any time limit?


KIRBY: It was a blessing in disguise that I had so little data at first. I wasn’t given all of the scripts directly. After I labored on the pilot, I knew solely the pilot. After which, once we received to the second episode, I knew that. It wasn’t like I used to be engaged on episode two and knew what episode six could be. So, what occurs is that you simply, as an actor, go on this journey of discovery in the identical method that the viewers is happening it. What I really like about this present is that you possibly can actually lose your self within the style as a result of the knowledge is given to you so slowly. It implies that you must assume and also you’re challenged all through. You’re on the identical journey that Sugar is on.

What Does the Dynamic With Sugar Say About Who Ruby Is?

Kirby as Ruby and Colin Farrell as John Sugar standing side by side and looking off-camera in Episode 8 of Sugar
Picture through Apple TV+

What was it wish to work on this with Colin Farrell? For an excellent majority of this, we’re studying about Ruby by her relationship with John Sugar and there are some very fascinating layers to that. What was it like to essentially discover that with him? How did he change what you might need thought it will be?


KIRBY: The vast majority of my scenes have been with Colin. The vast majority of Ruby’s interactions have been both with Sugar or on her personal. I believe that what helped flesh her out extra totally is that when she is with Sugar, you perceive her in a method due to their dynamic, however then when she’s on her personal, or she interacts with different characters, you see this different facet of her. When she’s with Sugar, she is softer they usually generally do have that sibling-like relationship the place you get that feeling of familiarity, of friendship, of intimacy. Whereas when she interacts with different folks, you see Ruby do her job. As an actor, you possibly can start to place items collectively and flesh out a personality totally.

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Did you’ve conversations with Colin Farrell or any form of rehearsal interval, or are you the kind of actor that doesn’t actually wish to overly rehearse one thing and simply likes to do it?

KIRBY: We didn’t have full, organized rehearsals, as in somebody placing it collectively. What I discovered actually stunning was that, as a result of Colin has been working for years on actually unimaginable high-level initiatives, what you see on display screen is an actor that actually has such a various physique of labor but in addition brings a degree of expertise that’s not like many others, and the explanation you see that’s that Colin is on the coronary heart of it and he’s a extremely hard-working actor. I keep in mind my first day of labor, which was the scene when Sugar comes over to Ruby’s home for the primary time and also you see them work together. After we had carried out our blocking rehearsal and we chatted with the director, we went off to the facet and we ran the traces ourselves. That, to me, felt like the center of the way in which we labored. Even once we weren’t engaged on display screen, we have been going off to the facet and having little rehearsals, in order that we might each get a really feel for the tennis match that’s continuously occurring between them.


It’s talked about a number of instances on this that this group of people are speculated to be observing, which jogged my memory of nature and Nationwide Geographic photographers or videographers who’re basically supposed to look at by capturing what’s naturally occurring, however they’re not speculated to intervene. Is Ruby somebody who takes that notion very severely? Are you aware whether or not it’s one thing she’s at all times taken very severely?

KIRBY: Once we first meet Ruby, and because it continues, she is somebody who trusts within the course of, for higher or for worse. It’s repeated that they’re there to look at, and she or he takes it very severely. She actually prides herself on following guidelines as a result of she believes that the foundations are there for the larger good. That turns into some extent of competition, each along with her and Sugar, and likewise inside herself. At a sure level, Ruby is pressured, as I believe most adults on the planet sooner or later are pressured, to reckon with the thought of, who’re the foundations there for? Are they there to guard us? Are they there to manage us? I believe that’s one thing she struggles with, and also you watch that turmoil occur all through the season.


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It’s obvious that Sugar is paying much less and fewer consideration to that side of what they’re speculated to be doing.

KIRBY: Yeah, I believe they arrive at it from completely different angles. If Ruby is a rule-follower, then Sugar is certainly a rule-breaker. Basically, I believe Sugar is appearing on what he thinks is greatest and what he thinks is for the larger good. We, as people and as acutely aware folks, are beginning to understand that not all guidelines are created for the larger good.

If There Is a Season 2 of ‘Sugar,’ Kirby Would Wish to Dig Even Deeper Into All the pieces


If there are extra episodes of this and we do get to see Ruby once more, what would you wish to know and study her? What would you wish to see her do?

KIRBY: Usually movie noir is movie. You’ve beneath two hours to discover a narrative, which implies that you must discover a strategy to present the story and present the characters inside that world, however you additionally need to tie the story up in a short time. We’re so lucky right here, to have the time to discover. We have now eight one-hour episodes, so we are able to actually discover, we are able to dig into relationships, we are able to dig into social points, and we are able to dig into the style. I’m excited that, if there’s a continuation, we’d simply proceed that. I’m actually excited for audiences to see what we have now right here. The gorgeous factor about TV is that it’s a two-way road between the viewers, and what occurs in subsequent seasons is influenced by how folks obtain the primary season.

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